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of malarky. >> reporter: ryan said the obama administration allowed iran to get closer to obtaining a nuclear weapon. >> it's because this administration has no credibility on the issue. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >> reporter: president obama was criticized for being too passive in last week's debate. vice president biden seemed determined not to make that same mistake. >> but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who said 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan said the obama administration has failed the middle class. >> we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> reporter: side by side at the same table, biden and ryan were not shy about directly engaging each other, sometimes with harsh attacks, sometimes with humor. >> i think the vice president very well knows that some times the words don't come out of your mouth the r

he's doing now. >> greta: you thought the obama administration's response couldn't get any worse you would be wrong. the obama campaign just made things really bad. how? what the deputy champagne manager stephanie cutter blaming governor romney for turning tragedy into politics. >> we're here in a debate. and i hope we get to talk about the debate. the eastbound entire reason this has become the political topic it is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of the stump speech. it's reckless and irresponsible. >> the romney campaign says the obama campaign is wrong. in a statement the campaign said the reason it is an issue because for the first time since 1979 an american ambassador was assassinated and president obama's strategy is failing. former senior advisor to president reagan joins us. your thoughts about what stephanie cutter said? >> i think it's nonsense. this was the worst terrorist attack since september 11th. gangs of dozens of men with ak 47s and rocket propelled grenades and mortarred attacked and murdered ambassador, then a safe house, some guys got away

, situation here where the obama administration blew it. and are actually accusing the administration of misleading the public. the obama administration denies that. hindsight is 20/20. but there's no doubt about it. there were requests they didn't feel safe. they needed more. let's face it. the facts play out that they had, very good suspicion and they were right. >> and this was not a good time for the hearing, for the obama administration. >> no. >> especially 20-something days away from the election. >> got that right. >> tough. >>> talk about lawyers and jerry sandusky, they say they will fight the attempts to take away his penn state pension. the retirement pension told sandusky will no longer receive $4,900 monthly check. in light of his conviction on child sex charges. sandusky received a total of $900,000 in pension payments between his retirement in 1999 and last month. >> wow. >> that's -- that's a sweet retirement deal. >> $900,000. >> that's a lot. wow. >> apparently the decision rests on analysis that he remained a de facto employee of penn state in the years after his 1

, governor romney talked about apologies from the obama administration. was that appropriate in the middle of the crisis? >> on that same day, the obama administration was in that same position. they disavowed their own statement they put up earlier in the day in cairo. it is never too early to speak out for our values. we should have spoken out right away. we should always stand up for peace, democracy, individual rights. we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts. when we equivocate on our values, it make us look weak. when we look weak, our adversaries are much more willing to test us. >> that is a bunch of malarkey. this lecture on embassy security. the congressman cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. so much for the embassy security. governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he knew that the ambassador was killed, he was out making political statements. he was panned by the media around the world. this talk about this weakness, i do not understand what my friend is talking about. this is a president who has done everything h

the obama administration. was that appropriate in the middle of the crisis? >> on that same day, the obama administration was in that same position. they disavowed their own statement they put up earlier in the day in cairo. it is never too early to speak out for our values. we should have spoken out right away. we should always stand up for peace, democracy, individual rights. we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts. when we equivocate on our values, it make us look weak. when we look weak, our adversaries are much more willing to test us. >> that is a bunch of malarkey. this lecture on embassy security. the congressman cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. so much for the embassy security. governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he knew that the ambassador was killed, he was out making political statements. he was panned by the media around the world. this talk about this weakness, i do not understand what my friend is talking about. this is a president who has done everything he has said he is going to do. he has repaired

the withdrawal, which was we agreed with the obama administration. let's have a status of forces agreement to make sure that we secure our gains. the vice president was put in charge of those negotiations by president obama. and he failed to get the agreement. we don't have a status of force agreement because they failed to get one. that's what we are talking about. and when it comes to our veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude for what they have done for us, including your son, beau. but we also want to make sure that we don't lose the things that we fought so hard to get. with respect to afghanistan, the 2014 deadline, we agree with the 2014 transition. but what we also want to do is make sure that we're not projecting weakness abroad, and that's what's happening here. this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself, but unfortunately it's indicative of a broader problem, and that is what we are watching on our tv screens is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy. which is making it more chaotic and us less safe. >> i just want to talk to you about right in the midd

the controversy over why the obama administration initially portrayed the terrorist attack as a spontaneous outbreak. >> why did it take so long for all these highly briefed and intelligent people to try and figure out that it actually wasn't a 15 minute youtube video and actually was a 9/11 event, a terrorist attack. >> reporter: state department under secretary patrick kennedy said there was no pressure to spin the event, not at the state department and not from the white house. sharyl attkisson, cbs news, capitol hill. >> the supreme court took up the use of race in college admissions. it's a case that could have a significant impact on affirmative action. abigail fisher is suing the university of texas. she claims she was denied admission four years ago partly because she's white. the university claims using race as one factor in determining admissions is necessary to improve diversity. >> i think most americans would like a day when we don't need to take race and ethnicity into account in admissions. we are not to that day. >> i hope the court rules that a student's race and ethnicity

for a moment now. last night vice president biden said the obama administration was not told of requests for more security in the run-up to the terror attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. republicans pounced on that claim pointing to testimony the day before from the state department officials that said there had been earlier requests for more security staffing. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more on all this. the catherine. >> reporter: good morning. on libya the vice president blamed the intelligence community for bad assessments that informed the administration public and controversyal statements about the attack and suggested the white house was unaware for more requests on the ground in libya. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. by the way, at the time we were told exactly, we said exactly what the intelligence community towed us. that they knew. that was the assessment. and as the intelligence community changed their view, we made it clear they changed their view. that's

's got to find some way to blunt it and he's got it make a stronger case fort obama administration and two, a stronger case against mitt romney than barak obama did last week. >> shep: is it your sense that this is turning on the national scale and it is in the big three on the east coast, but what's up with ohio? >> well, it's interesting. ohio -- actually a few states in the midwest. i don't think it's just ohio. wisconsin, look at iowa. part of it may be that it's the rust belt. certainly in the case of ohio is one out of eight jobs depends on the automobile industry and so people there remember the obama bailout of the auto industry and that helps a lot. there may be some regional differences. i don't think it's just one state. on the other hand, i do believe a rising tide lifts all boats. if romney starts to build support around the country, it will also increase in ohio and iowa and wisconsin states that are a little more resistance. conversely if he starts to sink, you'll see that in the swing states as well as the national polls. >> shep: sometimes it matters largely on how

this again tonight, talked about the weakness, talked about apology from the obama administration. was that really appropriate, right in the middle of the crisis? >> on that same day, the obama administration had the exact same position. let's recall that they disavowed their own statement that they put up earlier in the day in cairo. we had the same position. it's never too early to speak out for our values. we should have spoken out right away when the green revolution was up and starting when the mullahs in iran were attacking their people. we should not have called bashar assad a reformer when he was turning his russian-provided guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we equivocate on our values, when we show -- >> am i going to get anything to say here? >> it projects weakness, when we look weak, our adversaries are able to attack us -- >> that's a bunch of mularkey. >> why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >

in the same way. >> gretchen: why would the obama administration come up against that. if you look at the polls, military people usually vote republican. - >> they are trying to keep people who will vote for governor romney and congressman ryan for doing so. this is a generalization and probably true with respect to the military. i don't know the outcome. my prediction that the supreme court will not hear this. you have the weekend in which to vote. you have saturday, monday and special tuesday. and the extra day gone. >> steve: you are gone, too. andrew napolitano thank you. you watch the yankees last night? >> brian: they lost and there will be a game tonight. >> unfortunatelyy lost two. >> gretchen: and that's how we end the segment. judge, how desperate is the obama campaign? mitt romney hates kids? you got to hear this. >> brian: italian captain arrested after leaving the passengers for dead. >> steve: he needs something to do. ♪ ♪ ♪ you got the music in you. ♪ ♪ nature valley trail mix bars are made with real ingredients you can see. like whole roaed nuts, chewy gra

the withdrawal which was we agreed with the obama administration. let's make sure we secure our gains. the vice president was put in charge of those negotiations by president obama, and he failed to get the agreement. we don't have a set of forces agreement because today failed to get one. that's what we were talking about. when it comes to our veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude, including your son, beau. but we also want to make sure that we don't lose the things we have fought so hard to get. and with respect to afghanistan, the 2014 deadline, we agree with the transition, but what we also want to do is make sure we're not projecting weakness abroad, and that's what's happening here. this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself, but unfortunately, it's indicative of a broader problem, and that is what we are watching on our tv screens is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy which is making the world more chaotic and us less safe. >> moderator: i just want to talk to you about right in the middle of the crisis, governor romney -- and you're talking about this agai

aboutly what the obama administration is doing or it is no nonspecific that joe biden is like what do you want to do? >> don't be afraid progressives when they say when are you going to quit blaming bush. when are you going to accept that it was bush. >> stephanie: exactly. twenty nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." nah, he's probably got... [ dennis' voice ] allstate. they can bundle all your policies together. lot of paperwork. actually... [ dennis' voice ] an allstate agent can help do the switching and paperwork for you. well, it probably costs a lot. [ dennis' voice ] allstate can save you up to 30% more when you bundle. well, his dog's stupid. [ dennis' voice ] poodles are one of the world's smartest breeds. ♪ ♪ bundle and save with an allstate agent. are you in good hands? because you can shave against the grain with comfort with our thinnest blades. fusion proglide, gillette the best a man can get. from silver screens... to flat screens... twizzlerize your entertainment everyday with twizzlers the twist you can't r

by congressman darrell issa, one of the obama administration's toughest critics. the last week before the vice presidential debate. >>> plus capital control, the future of the senate could come down to just a handful of races, but, boy, are they different from state to state. today an exclusive, but the two guys driving their party's paths to power. good morning from washington, it's wednesday, october 1010/10/2012. >> last night senior state department officials gave their fullest account yet on the athat killed ambassador chris stevens. the most important take away, there were no protests in front of the consulate before the attacks ever. directly contradicting the story given by susan rice three weeks ago. here's the timeline as we know it from the state department. at 8:30 p.m. local, the streets are calm as ambassador stevens says good night to a viz siing turkish diplomat. answer agent sees a large number of men flowing into the compound and immediately puts out on alarm. a security act hustles the ambassador and others to a bunker inside the residence. the attackers then spray diesel ne

case that the obama administration has brought us from the worst economic crisis we've faced since the great depression as a result of failed policies of the past forward 31 straight months of job growth and that we need to continue to have president obama and he in office so that they can continue to get the economy turned around and create jobs and move forward rather than what paul ryan and mitt romney have proposed, which is to take us back to policies that crashed our economy, that -- here's the bottom line. american voters the next 26 days will have a choice and joe biden will make this case. do we want to go back to a window of time like those under president clinton when we had the longest sustained prosperity as a result of middle class focused economic policies or do we want policies like those during the bush era that focused on tax breaks for the wealthiest and almost no regulation. i think the choice is clear. >> 9 hours, 30 minutes, you and i whether be watching along with most americans. thank you so much for your time today. >> thank you. >>> it's a high stakes deba

administration policy for ryan to litigate against president obama and joe biden. so i think if the question is, is there material for examination tonight in kentucky, absolutely there is. and do those issues that you raise, are they likely to come up? absolutely. but what amie said is absolutely correct. you'll see the congressman articulate governor romney's positions on how to get the economy growing, how to jump start, you know, the economy and provide jobs, and be very focused on that. if the attacks come from the left and from biden all night on issues that are over the stern, they are looking backward. it doesn't seem to be synergistic with forward looking campaign. >> four years, backwards looking if that is what they do -- >> what's the plan for the future or medicare? >> fair enough. >> what's the plan for social security? the obama plan is to do nothing. >> there's something to be said about the fact people know what the president and vice president have been doing, there's more public attention on the oval office, the economy. in terms of paul ryan, one of most telling parts of the

mistakes that the obama administration says, they didn't have enough of the private sector organization. the one way i would propose to deal with that is put in someone like larry fink. people will scream, oh, my god, wall street. someone who's actually been in the trenches hiring and firing. you need somebody who's done that. >> speaking of the trenches, when you redo this game can you make it a foreign policy so we can do risk and attack on the country. >> thank you very much. up next, if you've ever wanted to see steve kornacki in high school, just wait. [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ honk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ innovation that excites. and every day since, two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches an

of the obama administration officials to condemn the attack and mourn the death of ambassador christopher stevens and three other americans but as the state department has weathered the republican-led criticism of the warning signs before the september 11th attack, clinton has been invisible. clinton will not appear the oversight hearing on the libya attack where they've said they will question the state department security preparations and the administration's account of the attack. the state department plans to the interest in their career with other officials. ahead of the hearing they provided new details about the attack or asserting that there had been no way to predict or prevent the same assault. and as we read in the "the washington times" earlier, the report that the state department according to them took away any claims that this attack was due to the protest about that video to read that is the front page of the "the washington times" this morning. they also in case you are interested include a brief chronology of the aftermath of the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya if

, has been suppressed. that is the vote on the obama administration. let's face it. if that were the same market under a reagan or a bush or even a clinton looking at a 20 or 25 multiple, we'd be trading at 2,000 or 2,500 in the s&p. we're looking right now at a situation where the weakness over the course of the last couple of days has been nothing more than protection being bought into the unknown which is the election, and that's -- >> that's ancillary weakness. >> i'll just repeat some of the things i said last night. i'm certainly no stock picker. leave that to my great pal, the brilliant jim cramer. all i'll say is in a romney victory i think the growth factor moves up to 4% growth in this country. i don't care about europe and china. i'm just saying in this country. they will probably follow. look, that means what? you start buying cyclicals, start buying industrials, start buying materials. you buy energy because romney is pro energy. you buy coal because romney is pro coal. you buy health care because romney won't nationalize the entire health care system. these are area

happened and why and why the obama administration's quote initial public assessments of the attack were subsequently proven inaccurate. >> patti ann: nato special forces are putting some of the top police officers through elite training. this sort of training mission is key to plans for the 2014 withdrawal but it comes after green on blue attacks which afghan security forces opened fired on nato trainers. lieutenant colonel north is streaming live from hellman province in afghanistan. >> nato commanders maintain that these green on blue attacks have failed to drive a wedge between the united states and our allies that those special forces that are being trained, we want to see for ourselves. >> these are afghan special police at the nato training center here in the province. the hand picked police officers sent here for advanced training to master skills necessary to protect the afghan people from the taliban. training here is conducted by nato special operators and experienced american law officers. this year, 600 graduates will return to their units in hand-to-hand combat, fire qualif

attack on the obama administration's handling of that. in fact, their overall foreign policy. let's watch. >> this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself, but unfortunately, it's indiktive of a broader problem. that's what we are watching on our tv screens, the unraveling of the obama foreign policy, which is making them more chaotic and us unsafe. >> here's the comeback. let's listen. >> with all do respect, that's a bunch of malarky. this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for, number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew our ambassador was killed, was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. and this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend's talking about here. this is a president who's gone out and done everything he has said he was going to do. >> well, michael steele and eugene robinson, both msnbc contributors and highly valued in their own ways.

, dominos straight down. >> republican lawmakers pounced on the obama administration over last month's embassy attack in libya. >> we had the correct number of people in ben za gi. >> to start off by saying you had the correct number and our ambassador and three other individuals are dead somehow doesn't seem to ring true to the american people. >> the u.s. anti-doping agency said armstrong was at the center of the most sophisticated doping program ever seen. >> a black bear had a school scrambling. >> we got that going. we still learned something today. >> for the oakland a's they'll live another day. >> did he do it again? he did! >> all that. >> 15-week old walrus about to make his debut in brooklyn. >> great, another brooklyn hipster with a ridiculous moustache. >> and all that matters. >> tickle me elmo. tickle me bill moyers. tickle everybody. >> on "cbs this morning." >> larry pushed me to be great and i hope i pushed him to be great. >> i guess the real message tonight for magic johnson is >> i guess the real message tonight for magic johnson is find somebody to hate. caption

. >>> republican lawmakers pounced on the obama administration over last month's embassy attack in libya. >> we had the correct number of assets in benghazi. >> to start off by saying you had the correct number and o ambassador and three other individuals are dead somehow doesn't seem to ring true to the northwestern people. >> the u.s. anti-doping agency said lance armstrong was at the center of the doping scandal. >> a black bear had a school scrambling. forced a lock down. >> the oakland a's will live another day! can they do it again? he did. >> all that -- >> 15--week-old walrus. >> great another brooklyn hipster with a ridiculous mustache. >> tickle me elmo, tickle me bill moyers, tickle everybody. >> on cbs "this morning." >> larry pushed me to being a great and i hope i pushed him to being a great. >> i guess the message tonight, magic johnson, find somebody to hate. >>> welcome to cbs "this morning." i'm charlie rose in los angeles. norah o'donnell is in new york. new polls show the race between president obama and governor mitt romney is getting tighter. a new quinnipiac university-cbs n

in our nato partners and talk about the positive ways the obama administration handled libya and that biden should point out that paul ryan's most recent budget in the house called for reductions in spending to the state department and he said that could jeopardize u.s. security and that biden should point that out. >> we know that half of the debate is supposed to be on foreign policy, national security. the other half on domestic issues. right now they're introducing the wives of the candidates. soledad, tell our viewers what you're seeing. >> that's right. the commissioner has been really running through the program as they head up through the start of the debate. interesting difference between the two wives. very different women, of course. >> very different, primarily because we do see jill biden a lot out there with michelle obama, talking about military families. jan ryan has not done any interviews. believe me, we tried. and she wants to maintain a low profile. she's raising her three kids. she simply has the pedigree to be able to get out there and talk about politic

points. i think he had the vice president on the defensive on the issue of libya and the obama administration actions with regards to libya. i think it was a good debate. >> except you know the clip that we played there about the stimulus? that was a tough one, right? joe? >> well, of course i mean vice president biden is very, very good on his feet, very quick on his feet. i think it was a very strong performance on his part. i think paul ryan did a great job also. but vice president biden is very strong. >> karen, let's talk about all that smiling and interrupting. your unvarnished take. do you wish the vice president had backed off even a little? because then we wouldn't even be talking about his style. >> the only reason we're talking about his style is because the republicans can't seem to take a punch. last week when our guy didn't do so well we took hit. we admitted it and we moved on. this week when it was a commanding performance for romney, all of a sudden joe biden is being rude. frankly, there were so many moments where biden could have further corrected paul on a m

and no rookie when it comes to face-offs with the obama administration. just a few moments ago he tweeted out a picture of himself on the debate stage here in danville, kentucky. i guess he was going through his walk through, you might say, at that point, wolf. and we are told by top aides to paul ryan that he expects to be called mr. ryan later on this evening. in one corner paul ryan in an ice cream shop on the campaign trail, mitt romney's running mate didn't exactly predict a rocky road in his first debate with joe biden. but he did give the vice president the edge. >> joe biden's been on this stage before. he's been on the big stanls. this is my first time. >> reporter: in the other corner a man who's been on this stage before. >> ever seen me rope-a-dope? >> reporter: but biden better have his gloves up. ryan will be looking to debate substance, the wyoming congressman will zero in on this widely received presidential gaffe earlier this month. >> how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried for the last four years. >> reporter: the obama campaign is looking

, unemployment is responsible for that. lower taxes are responsible for that. and the obama administration has lowered taxes consistently. it's brought in less revenue. >> let's look at the question about the dow jones average. it's fascinating. this president has been seen as being hostile to wall street. wall street believes that wall street has been treated badly. you look at these numbers, and you have to ask that bill clinton question, are you going to believe me or your liein' eyes? >> the fact is that the dow did take a small dump right before obama became president. >> that's one way to put it. >> so he is a beneficiary of this massive rise. >> i now can see it. >> we've got to introduce to you bill karins, but go ahead. >> the dow was way, way down when obama took office. and it has basically doubled during his tenure. the fact is a lot of americans were not invested in it. a lot of americans pulled their money out of their mutual funds. they're either sitting on the sidelines or sitting in bonds. >> mark halhalperin, i'm sure wl hear a lot of this tonight. the question, are you bette

recovered a species, it will be delisted. this was not a decision made by obama administration. it was a judge who reversed the position who changed the future of wolf recovery. it changed the goal posts. what we need ultimately need we needed an endangered reform act. it's not working for the betterment of the endangered species and there's nobody in this room, nobody in montana that wanted to endangered species. that want species to disappear from the face of the earth. the point is we need certainty. we need to work together to delist it. turn management back over to the state. the solution and compromise came up was stopgap. it should be delisted. it still allows the u.s. fish and wildlife service to have an influence. the management should be sent back to the state as we have proposed in my legislation. >> the problem is, legislation didn't make it out of committee. still setting there. we got a bill we can get bipartisan support for and get passed. it was done after talking with sportsmen and livestock producers and conservationist across the board. it was the right thing

care issue is not going to go away in this debate. we're going to hear more of it. barack obama was defending his idea of obamacare and medicare and said for instance, that medicare works because the insurance companies have to make a profit on top of their administrative cost, medicare doesn't have to do that and it's lowered administrative costs and therefore a better deal. he said that romney's idea of premium support helping people buy insurance in the private marketplace, all economists agree the premium support will cause medicare to collapse. >> now that's an arguable point and i think that romney is going to engage him on those issues and try to continue to make the case for private sector health insurance. >> what i found interesting about this exchange is remember, obamacare was supposed to be romney's achilles heel throughout the primaries, his rivals said he wouldn't be able to challenge on that, and i think he proved a lot of people wrong. >> he pushed right through that and went on offense. >> and it's an example of his effort to reach across the aisle. >> bipartis

. my record shows that on controversial issues. i would be the point person for our administration. when asked if i wanted a portfolio, my response was no. barack obama indicated he wanted me to be with him to help him governmen. i will give my bested by spirit one of the things he said early on -- i will give my best. i look forward to working with barack and playing a very constructive role in his presidency, creating the type of change this country needs. >> there was a lot of concern four years ago that he did not seem to be arrogant toward sarah palin or not patronizing toward her, that would be a better word. and there are no such concerns tonight. he's going to be more aggressive against paul ryan than he was against sarah palin. and of course he won't be -- there's the question that he was answering then, you know, kind of what kind of vice president he would be. his answer on a question like that would be different tonight because of course he's been vice president for four years and we know there are areas in which he's played an extremely significant role including, for

this morning with priorities u.s.a. action, a superpac that supports president obama. also a former white house press secretary for the administration. hammering behind me, i apologize in case it drowns me out as we're talking. twitter was on fire where people would think absolutely, positively it was paul ryan who won or absolutely, positively it was joe biden who won. ultimately, though, this was about playing to the middle. when it comes to that realist realistically, who do you think had the advantage there? >> i think if you look at the polls, your poll said that that debate was tied. cbs said that vice president biden did remarkably better than congressman ryan did. but i think if you just look at the two -- if you look at the vice president, the vice presidential nominee on the republican side, the facts don't stack up for the republican side. and i think that joe biden did an excellent job of point iing t where the math didn't add up, where his inexperience on foreign policy showed ryan to be unprepared and a little off kilter. and i think that joe biden, overall, did a much better job

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